Transcribed here, is the conversation that begins with a statement by Rajoy:

—What they are claiming to ask people is to to renounce their status as Spaniards and Europeans. This is nonsense. Why should they lose out on their right to be Spanish and European? This goes against the destiny of time.

—But Spanish nationality will not be lost. In the case of the independence of Catalonia, the Spanish nationality will not be lost by the citizens of Catalonia.

—I don’t know why it won’t be lost. And European nationality neither?

—Because the law says that a citizen born in Spain does not lose their nationality even though he resides in a foreign country, if he has the wish to preserve it.

—Then… the European nationality?

—And he would keep his European nationality because he has Spanish nationality.

—I think that this disquisition is not leading anywhere.

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